UAP or UFO, is it any less credible if a regular “Joe” reports the experience versus the Military?

Looking at the recent disclosure from the US government.

I know — I know a lot of credibility is put on the government release of UFO files, BUT… Here is my take on this year’s disclosure so far.

Since my early childhood, I have been an experiencer. What this means is that I have had encounters of all kinds, including the 4th, of being on board a craft. I have written and published information about several of those events, but not all of them. I would say that maybe 85% of the time, the experience is easy to explain. The other 15% I am still processing. Honestly, I might never get to talking about those. One of the 15% is in the “never want to experience that again — ever.” Which I never have.

Now, my earliest memory is from around 3 years old. It is just brief, childlike, almost like a photograph. I am standing in a craft, and everything is so big compared to me — the beings, the technology (If you can call it that) used to drive the craft, and the vastness of the universe. I remember emotionally feeling an overwhelming sense of love from the beings I was with. I was cared for immensely, and I recall the feeling today. Nothing on the planet has ever made me feel that loved.

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I have seen a lot of things. Many different types of craft, and at times, I filmed/photographed them successfully or unsuccessfully. Here is a fairly successful zoomed-in photograph. All the lights were off, and I was intuitively pointing it at a place in the sky.

Taken with my Nikon camera from the inside of my house and through a window, Mara BC.

One of the unsuccessful times was during a CE5 group retreat I did in Conception Bay South, Newfoundland. A group of us, my two friends and I, are driving the Southeast coast of Newfoundland, the Avalon Peninsula. We saw and followed a huge — like three football fields sized craft – to the right of the road we were on. No one else driving that road with us saw it; it was a flat, elongated pentagon shape, matte silver in colour, and you could see it had edges. Two of us were filming it with our phones, me in the front passenger side of the car, and one other in the back of the car. Both of us got a recording of our excited voices explaining what is going on. You can hear just how in shock we were — it was the middle of the afternoon, with bright sunlight. We both visually confirm that we are recording the craft by looking at the cell phone screens while filming. Once the craft vanished, we pulled over to get a grip on what just happened, and THEN the person who trained me in CE5 called my cell. No shit… I pick up stunned, and she said, “I had an overwhelming urge to call you? What is going on?”

She did not know about my retreat. In fact, it had been months since we spoke.

Then, unfortunately, when we got back to the cabin and transferred the footage to my computer, there was no craft in the video! So, confirmation and proof can be vague, hard to capture, yet wondrous all at the same time.

I have given you two of my examples, most importantly, to show that the experience is not limited to the US military. In fact, bravely talk to someone at any gathering, and you will find that many people either believe in extraterrestrials or have experiences to share.

As I am going through this month’s downloaded disclosure information (https://www.war.gov/UFO/), I am so reminded of what needs to happen.

So, let’s run through that by understanding what we are hearing in the UFO community.

I can easily put this in a simple two-camp explanation. One camp I can say is the CE5 / Dr. Steven Greer style with peaceful beings, and the other is just everyone else who is doing a “we need to worry about invasion, and it could be demonic” group. Can you guess where my bias is?

In 2011, I was trained in the CE5 method of meditation and remote viewing, so I am biased towards that philosophy. I have a second bias in that I am an experiencer, medium, shaman and metaphysical minister. I mentioned earlier that I have experienced almost every aspect of contact described in the Hynek scale.

In his 1972 book, The UFO Experience: A Scientific Enquiry, Professor J. Allen Hynek devised a sixfold classification for UFO sightings, ranked by proximity to the event. Popularized by Hollywood, Hynek’s system has endured as a framework for understanding unexplained aerial phenomena.

Hynek first outlined his UFO typology in a speech to the American Association for the Advancement of Science in December 1969.¹ In analyzing 21 years of UFO reports, he distinguished between unexplained aerial phenomena that took place at a distance and events that presented more useful and interesting data, which he called “close encounters.”

“I divide the close encounter cases into three subdivisions,” Hynek explained, “the close encounter with little detail; the close encounter with physical effects; and the close encounters in which ‘humanoids’ or occupants are reported .. This latter subgroup, of course, has the highest strangeness index and frightens away all but the most hardy investigator. I would be neither a good reporter nor a good scientist were I deliberately to reject data.”²

In the UFO Experience, Hynek articulated his six categories in more detail.

Nocturnal Lights: Lights in the night sky.

Daylight Discs: UFOs seen in the daytime, generally having discoidal or oval shapes.

Radar-Visual: UFO reports that have radar confirmation — these supposedly try to offer harder evidence that the objects are real, although radar propagation can be occasionally discredited due to atmospheric propagation anomalies.

Close Encounters of the First Kind: Visual sightings of an unidentified flying object, seemingly less than 500 feet (150 m) away, that show an appreciable angular extension and considerable detail.

Close Encounters of the Second Kind: A UFO event in which a physical effect is alleged; this can be interference in the functioning of a vehicle or electronic device, animals reacting, a physiological effect such as paralysis or heat and discomfort in the witness, or some physical trace like impressions in the ground, scorched or otherwise affected vegetation, or a chemical trace.

Close Encounters of the Third Kind: UFO encounters in which an animated entity is present — these include humanoids, robots, and humans who seem to be occupants or pilots of a UFO.”

Source: https://enigmalabs.io/library/6483dd0f-9d12-41fa-842b-c064d636c3bb

So CE of the fourth kind is often referred to as abductions or being onboard a craft. And it came after Hynek. Dr. Greer coined the term CE of the fifth kind, as it refers to earth-based reaching out to contact the ETI (extraterrestrial intelligence).

I wrote about that very first CE5 night in my book, so I won’t go into detail here. Let’s just say it was life-altering. All my prior experiences made sense after that first night, and the following years of CE5 increased my ability to make contact, see craft and interact with what I now call my star family. That first CE5 was so well done that I even found answers for the one bad experience I had years before in my forties.

Do I understand who our stellar neighbours are? Yes, I do. Do I think they are here to hurt us, or to mislead us? No, I don’t. In fact, I know that if that were their intention, the technology I have seen would have taken us out in a heartbeat. Why are they here then? It is so that as we enter into an age of space travel, we do so in a safe way. In order to do that, we need to evolve into what is termed a level one civilization. We must learn to harness energy that is sustainable and does not deplete and harm our planet.

It’s that simple.

source: https://procommun.com/2025/10/space/what-is-the-kardashev-scale-breaking-down-type-i-ii-iii-civilizations/

The issue is that harnessing energy can be weaponized quickly. So, our evolution as a species has to be coupled with this. Plus, you can not talk about energy without realizing the monetary control keeping the general population under control. So quickly, simple becomes complex because of the heavier aspects of human nature.

I want to take a moment here to explain that I am not talking about alternative energies like solar or wind , nor Lithium batteries. I am also not talking about electric vehicles. So, the quick answer as to why I discount these systems is this. They are all still forms of dirty energy harming us and the planet, and they are not at all sustainable. They deplete resources, are not biodegradable, and are limited resource materials constructs. I am sure you all know what lithium/cobalt mining is all about and that the main storage for alternative energy forms is those horrid lithium/cobalt batteries. If you had to buy the electric cars directly from the miners, you would never buy one of those cars.

Ok, tangent over… the point is that our neighbours are trying to help us negotiate finding sustainable energy sources of a level one and up civilization without contributing to our need to kill each other in unusual and cruel ways.

Face it, a lot of the population is still not there yet, still wants to harm each other and scrabble over whose stick is longer than the others.

From Dr. Greer and the CE5 nights, I learned that it is all about consciousness and that evolving into space travel relies on us evolving in consciousness. We need to know what we do and how it affects the world before we can go anywhere else. Not because there is some sort of overlord ruler, but simply because that is what is needed to find the energy for space travel.

Ok, so the other camp:

The other camp is trying to control disclosure, spin the narrative and create weapons of mass destruction that will surround our planet. They are also in a race with all countries around the world to develop reverse engineering craft and such, so they can further fill their vaults with money. The current narrative with this group is now coming out as the stellar neighbours being demonic and evil. Dr. Greer used to talk about a form of racism based on how the ET’s looked. The idea of black eyes or races that are less than human-looking creates this form of racism. He called it Speciesism, even though that is a term used with animals.

The heart of disclosure:

So, we can get to the heart of the disclosure happening right now. So-called disclosure. It does not contain anything we don’t already know. Seriously. The photos and videos released are things most of us have already seen. It is 100% focused on the military’s collection of interactions.

So, my question is this: why have we not done a serious investigation into the large corporations doing the reverse engineering of craft and craft wreckage we have in our possession? How much longer are we going to put up with the over 100 years of lies? Are we supposed to believe that these are all ET’s craft, or can we finally admit that they are also man-made vehicles?

I watch those recent videos, and I see man-made craft.

Finally, what the hell is the Buga sphere really? And can the general population please understand that there is more than one of them? From what I have read, there are at least three at this point.

https://bugasphere.com

No one talks about FREE anymore:

https://ccri2019.wixsite.com/free

FREE stands for the Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial and Extraordinary Encounters. It is also known as the Edgar Mitchell Foundation, thus named after his passing in 2016. This Foundation set out to record the regular Joe’s experiences and compile the information gathered into a comprehensive book. The result was astounding, and thousands of people submitted experiences. This is the foundation that coined the term experiencer, and showed that contact is being made on a spiritual level and transdimensional level, as well as a physical level. The research shows that the majority of experiencers documented a positive experience. It also showed that the abductees came to realize misunderstandings had taken place and grew to see that what was once a negative event became positive over time. (Just like Mr. Travis Walten reports, he is the most credible abduction case of recent times.)

I read ‘Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness & Contact with Non-Human Intelligence’ when it came out, but it still adds valuable knowledge to understanding the bigger picture of Disclosure. Here is the Amazon link; however, I have my copy on my Kobo https://a.co/d/06VxPnMi.

What we need is the bigger picture.

Disclosure has been happening in our backyards and neighbourhoods for over 60 years, as contact has been taking place on this planet since before recorded history. As a youth, I devoured Von Daniken’s book ‘Chariots of the Gods’ when I found it in my mother’s books. The first versions of recorded history also recount travellers from other worlds. What about the Nazca Lines? Take a look at the verbal stories passed down in First Nations mythology, and you will also find an immensely detailed version of contact. Read your biblical stories and other religious literature.

There is so much disclosure that it isn’t even funny. Seriously, why has no one been talking about this? We don’t need proof from the government or the military. Oh, wait, maybe it is all the disinformation online. Yeah … and that no one seems to read books anymore or have backyard BBQ’s, conversations with your neighbours, or the time to do these things.

I think I have answered my own question. I grew up in a time when the world was a completely different place, and it is the foundation for how I view the world.

A place where we lay on our backs under the stars and looked up. That is still my place. I often just stop, like a nut job and look straight up into the sky and send out a telepathic voice asking, “Are you out there?” Guess what, I often get an answer back by seeing an object pop in to say hello. I do this most of the time when getting in or out of my vehicle. The most recent version of this was when driving to Walmart two weeks ago. I saw what I would call a Buga-like sphere drop down, so I could see it and then take off back up into the sky. Tip: I live in the Fraser Valley area of BC.

More advice, ‘don’t forget’. No matter how much malarky or disinformation you have to be exposed to, remember who you are and what has actually happened in your life. Journal and talk about what you are witnessing as it is happening to anyone who can stand still long enough to listen. Remember what bias does to any system or disclosure — you are the countermeasure to that. You are not going to gain financially, so your version is going to be a better version.

We don’t need the government to confirm or deny what we can see with our own eyes. Be open-minded, because we will, as individuals, engage in this phenomenon in different ways. Besides, those military videos and photos are grainy as shit, and the testimony only goes so far. At some point, you get, “I will tell you all of the details if I am allowed to be in a SCIF (sensitive compartmented information facility) or if you can finally pass a disclosure clause allowing me to get out of the NDA (Non-disclosure agreement) I signed.”

sigh…

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I am beyond disappointed in the public’s so-called credible disclosure not being disclosure at all. Let’s take that all back — start hosting CE5 nights, or backyard BBQs at the cabin. Stand and look up, movement, here we come!

More links to check out!

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dr.+Greer%27s+movies

https://www.etcontacthub.com

https://www.etcontacthub.com/books.html

https://ce5groupfinder.com

If you have a link to share, please post it in the comments. There is so much going on that it is hard to keep track of it all.

Rev. Lea Walters

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